Police are deploying armed checkpoints in north London to tackle feuding Turkish gangs engaged in a bloody turf war. (from Evening Standard Website TODAY 12 Oct 09)

In the past it was when it was governed by a Secular government. Now, Turkey is under an Islamist-Jihadist government that is cozying with Israel's enemies. Barak is wrong to put too much weight on them. The fact is Turkey is becoming an irrelevant state in the region.

The galut is back in Israel with fearful,cowardly leaders who are experts at appeasing Islam and abusing fellow Jews of faith. They easily trade Israel's sovereignity for empty lies. Barak, the retreat and surrender specialist knows the art of failure and it is only fitting that he has a high place in Israel's failed politics of appeasment.

Those gangs in north London are Kurds. Those Kurds were accepted all over Europe as 'freedom fighters' since the 1990s. Until a few years ago, PKK Kurdish terrorist group was not recognised as terrorist but seen as freedom frighters and openly supported by Europe, just like Europe's two faced approach to Palestinian terrorists. Now, with already experienced terrorists gangs, those Kurds are terrorising Britain, Germany, France and other European countries. Well, they can enjoy their 'freedom fighters' this time. Plus, in Britain there is a very tiny ethnic Turkish minority, they are Turkish Cypriots, students, academics, diplomats, business people and all are very well integrated and very successful. The gang area of north London is Kurdish area, good luck Britain with your former 'freedom fighter' gangs.

It is for Turkey to make all the overtures.Turning the other cheek now must not let Israel loose face .This is not the first time that Turkey has thrown a tantrum !

"cozying with Israel's enemies." do you mean Europe? or America or who?

vis a vis Iran. That shouldn't mean you shouldn't show any national pride and be pathetic.

The Islamist-Jihadist states in the region-including Iran and its tentacles.

People , how long will you keep talking about Kurdistan.İ really find it very absurd.What do you really expect from them?There is not even a country in the name of Kurdistan.Even it's established ,don't you see , however Armenian Diaspora is very strongfull in the world but Armenia is in a poor condition years along because we closed our borders to them and they demand us.That's why nowadays Sarkisyan strives for being in the same table with Erdoğan.So don't you even care about the Kurds.İs it really easy to build a country?İ find you totaly thoughtless.Does İsrael really fares that badly ,wishing to be in the same bed with Kurdistan... About the last act Turkish goverment did,thats the first time i find one of their acts beneficial for both of us , for our relation(social relation) .You need to see that its useless to treat of Kurdistan or tourism boykott or etc.That's why your politicians make speechs like Barak did. Excuse my mistakes ! İ'm here , writing this text because actually i care about İsrael.You may would not accept that but i love this country.

Hamas also is a terrorist gang recognized as such by USA and most Europe. However Turkish PM Erdogan invited their leader Meshal to Ankara and the Turkish government is in very good relationship with them As long as you call the PKK terrorist but ignore other terrorist groups such as Hams as freedom fighter the world cannot win the war against terrorism. The fight that Israel is giving against Hamas terrorists is same as the fight Turkey is giving against PKK

If you look at the maps from before the Turkish republic was established you will see that the eastern Turkey is marked as Armenia and Kurdistan. Similarly you will see a big chunk of northern Arabian peninsula by the Mediterranean including all of Jordan as Palestine. However as you said there was never a state called Kurdistan nor one called Palestine. Israel is not wishing to be in the same bed with Kurdistan however Turkey is already in the same bed with Hamas. PM Erdogan invited Hamas leaders to Turkey while Israel helped Turkey catch Abdullah Ocalan. Do you see the difference Idil hanim. BTW: It must be Lufer season at th ebosphorus. Remember me if you stop to eat Lufer at Beykoz but unfortunately you will not e able to sip Raki since the AKP mayor banned it.

both are powerful forces that drag the region back into the age of darkness and unimaginable cruelty Muslims have saddled the world with a parasitic and pathologically suicidal movement that has proven its capacity to destroy and its incapacity to create anything of substance to human civilization

Israel attempted to use Armenian Genocide lies to pressure Turkey Turkey must immediately respon adapting UN Resolution 3379 determining that Zionism is racism and racial discrimination. Turkish laws should prohibit zionism and arrest Turkish Chief Rabbi who confessed he was zionist That is the best respons to Israel who tries to play with Armenian issue

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hey tayfun! how does it feels? you call the armenian genocide a lie but advocates the so called palestinian genocide... you say "That is the best respons to Israel who tries to play with Armenian issue", that is the israeli response to the turkish attempts to play with the palestinian issue. turkey is no regional super power, how do I know that? well if you would have been a one, the military trill which was canceled because the us,nato and italy canceled would have been done without israel.

you are a pathetic fool, Brod...

what is certain is that Turkey is going downhill very fast and at an accelerating pace it is impossible to stop its downfall into the abyss any longer, the way it has already happened to Iran

Republic of Turkey: Nato Member, second largest armed forces in NATO after the US. Former Imperial Power, exerts substantial soft power in the Balkans, Central Asia and the Middle East. Home to 90, B61 Nuclear Warheads, Associate EU member (Negotiations for Full EU membership continuing), G20 member etc etc Do you call this irrelevant? Educate yourself!

Look how stupid this ultra right ignorant Jew is,you better go read and learn how irrelavant Turks are?, Isarel's security is dirrectly tied to Turkish survival,you are not only arrogant jew but and ignorant one, as a Turkish-Jew l like to remind you that Turkey is as important as Israel and a power player in the region l am glad our leaders are not as ignorant as some of our Jews who makes such a stupid remarks here,we better do everything in our power to secure Turkie's security or we will face a bigger ball game like no other in our history.

small countries Armenians, Kurds, Cypriots, Greece, Israel let's see them go into a prolonged conflict with Russia, there are still a lot of of unresolved issues between the two, but Turkey wouldn't dare opening its mouth

and with your butt up toward your Moon God?

why do you need to chase after Goyim that do not want us? Egypt and Arbia and Iran are as influential in the region as Turkey or even more and Israel has done fine for dozens of years without their friendship why do you feel the need to have such a "dihimi" syndrome that everything that comes out of Turkey's filthy mouth is acceptable to you