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Lebanon: Israel stole our falafel
Roee Nahmias
פורסם: 06.10.08, 09:10
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61. Palestinians claim falafel too
azazel ,   nyc   (06.10.08)
So will they now sue the Lebanese? And how about that thick sweet coffee stuff - is it Turkish, Arab or Armenian coffee? Let's settle it in court!
62. They are absolutly right!!!
Yoav ,   Tel Aviv   (06.10.08)
The Lebanese are right all these mentioned foods are of Lebanese, Syrian, and Palestinian origin. Israel adopted the food after 1948. It was one of the things Israel has done to cement its origin and its right to the land. We Israelies know that and we should market these products with different names...may be with Hebrew names instead of using arabic names. All these names Falafel, Homus, Tabouli are arabic names. May be the Hebrew language is not rich enough to create its own words!!! that's why we are using arabic words. Imagine if we have peace peace with the arabs...surely we would be arabized by now...we are already 20% arabized, since 20% of current collequal hebrew today is arabic. Forget the zionist dream!!! I don't think this dream lives anymore in rational jewish minds...
63. Again they are right!!!
YOAV ,   Tel Aviv   (06.10.08)
They are right because I don't think the pioneers jews..russian, polish, east european and others knew what what Falafel is! until they came to palestine. Most Israeli food today is a blend of immigrants backgrounds traditions, and the local Palestinian traditions. Let's admit that....Falafel, Humos, and tabbouli are arabic food and not Israeli..as we wish!!!
64. MIDDLEASTERN FOOD
yochanan ,   chicago, USA   (06.10.08)
KHALID MOSES our father said thou shall not murder so i guess that leavees the pali hamas, hezballah, al quada out. frankly i think falaffal tastes about as good as what my cat leaves in the litter box i perfer rib steak thank you very much.
65. Do Arabs have Me'orav Jerushalmi and Shipudim?
Adnan ,   Former Yugoslavia   (06.10.08)
66. #62-#63, Self hatred on your part
Jake   (06.10.08)
does not necessitate a change of heart on my part. If you feel you are a rootless cosmopolitan Johnny-come-lately riffraff that is your problem, not mine, nor of the Jews who are confident in their rootedness in the land. It is their legacy that will endure, not yours. If your colloquial Hebrew is comprised mostly of Arabic slangs like "sababa" and "mabsut" and "jiffa" and various expletives, again that is your problem, not mine. For those who are interested, there are plenty of outlets in Israel where one can be exposed to good literary Hebrew, devoid of Arabisms. My forefathers were Jews who lived in the region and were familiar with its customs, and there were no such people as "Palestinians", and there was no country called "Lebanon" either. It so happens that all these cuisines you mention were known throughout the Ottoman empire, and many of them are in fact Turkish in origin. In the case of Falafel, it originates in Egypt, not in Lebanon. If you are unable to extract this information from a most basic search, again, that is your problem, not mine.
67. I've never heard or seen any Israel claim
5th generation ,   Israel   (06.10.08)
their food to be Israeli. Ever. It is a well-accepted fact and a bit of a cultural joke that we eat a blend of Arab and Eastern European foods. Perhaps a twist here and there, but even those twists are credited to a specific country (Morocco, Argentina, etc). What "great losses" is this guy whining about? Is this another product of the poor-me stop-the-world Islamist propaganda machine?
68. # 63
Bill ,   US   (06.10.08)
I don't think the Israelis ever claimed falafel was a national dish as much as something Israelis liked to eat. It's not like the Arabs who have for centuries marketed Persian folktales as "The Arabian Nights".
69. #42, To Khalid from the Netherlands
Jake   (06.10.08)
I wonder how many customs you adopted from the Dutch, and then claimed they are authentic Arabic traditions.
70. #43
Jake   (06.10.08)
Lebanon will never win a lawsuit concerning Falafel, because Falafel was not originally Lebanese. It comes from EGYPT, can you understand? And not the Egypt of today, but pre-Arabic, pre-Islamic Coptic Egypt. Lots of luck to the Copts to win a law suit even in their own country. And just so you know, even if Israel made falafel, hummus, and tabbuli into national dishes de-facto, it never claimed them as its exclusive property. In fact, they left their Arabic names and did not change the names of these dishes into Hebrew, to make people believe they originate from Hebrew. There are other dishes, like shawarma and baklava, whose names originate in Turkish. All of these cuisines were made into regional cuisines by the Ottoman Empire, before any of the modern countries on the Middle Eastern map today came into existence.
71. #44. Re "Fanatic settlers with long sideburns"
Jake   (06.10.08)
Yes, we are familiar with peculiar customs of a small proportion of the population, without having to use your racist diatribes as a reference, thank you very much. We are familiar with their "wrapping their arms with ropes and shaking their heads for a particular reason that I don't comprehend", but the least we can see about them is they follow the rulings and advice of rabbis living among them in their own communities, in Israel. The Hizbullah movement has imported into Lebanon a virulent fanatic brand of Shi'ite Islam that is the product of the Iranian Islamic Revolution. Portraits of Ayatollah Khomeini and Khamenei are everywhere. Hizbullah takes its cue politically, religiously, and militarily from Iran. Sure there are good looking women in Lebanon, but so too are there in Iran and Afghanistan, hiding beneath the burqas and chadors.
72. it is oriental food!
shmuel   (06.10.08)
It is ORIENTAL food! And they all are oriental & semitic people! Genug!
73. Everyone else better stop producing Swiss Cheese
Marvls   (06.10.08)
and while they're at it- Matzoh balls, chicken soup & bagels.
74. #66 Jake
Yoav ,   Tel Aviv   (06.10.08)
I don't know where you live...may be you should walk in the streets of Tel Aviv and listen to I called the arabic hebrew spoken by most social layers of the Israeli community. It's a fact..and we can not deny it...If the Falafel originated in Egypt, so let us "the Israelies" admit to that...It's that simple...read other comments and see how most readers lack this knowledge. You mentioned there was no such Lebanon or Palestine as countries, but there were people like you and me who call themselves Lebanese, Syrian, and Palestinians... Again let's be fair and honest. I believe in the true Judaism of fairness and just. Not enough we stole their land, so let's steel their culture, language and heritage...may be their religion too!!!!!!! not funny !!!!
75. A Legal Argument
SA ,   USA   (06.10.08)
You can copywrite a recipe for felafel, but you cannot copywrite the felafel itself. If Lebanon wants to market its own brand of felafel like the Israelis have done, they are welcome to do so, but trying to recover damages for allegedly "stealing" a type of food is simply ludicrous.
76. honest israeli #62,63
(06.10.08)
thank you Yo av to have the courage and honesty to explain to your fellow Jews of Israel,Canada, USA etc.. the truth that they are reluctant to hear.
77. Enough with labels,just enjoy
Larry ,   zefat Israel   (06.10.08)
Life is too short for this shtuyot about who invented what ,where etc...Maybe Falafel was not invented in Israel,we all know that but the Falafel in Israel is Damn Good.Hope one day our friend in Lebanon can get opportunity to enjoy.
78. # 66
Bill ,   US   (07.10.08)
You gave yourself away. No Jew would say something so ignorant. We don't need to steal their language, we have our own. We don't need their culture, it's backwards. Steal their religion? They already stole ours. Steal their land? You mean after they sold it or after they lost it in war? Their heritage? Is falafel their heitage? You have to pour an ounce of tahini on it to give it flavor. Nice try on your part.
79. Stolen Falafel tastes even better,what can we steal from the
YSL ,   Jerusalem   (07.10.08)
80. #62 and 63 yoav is most likely not
jerome ,   basalt co.   (07.10.08)
a jew or from Israel, not all Israelis are from Europe before 1948 like the monkey President of Iran claims. The origanal pioneer Jews have been in Israel since before the 1st temple! Yoav sounds more like his real name is Achmed! Israeli food is Falafel, humus, tabbouli,olive oil and don't forget chlalah. Who gives a darn where it originated from! Palestinians love there ak47's and shahids, it doesn't mean they invented it! Next the hizbullshitallah will sue the pallies for saying suicide murder is their origin!
81. Falefel, hommos, foul...
Libneniyyeh ,   Beirut/Canada   (07.10.08)
what's the difference? They all give you gas
82. When did the land separate?
Daniel ,   ISRAEL   (07.10.08)
Before Falafel came in to existence or after?
83. Quick, take out a patent for matzo balls!
robin ,   israel   (07.10.08)
84. felafel and other good foods
rachel ,   Toronto   (07.10.08)
Yoav, you are full of felafel! Khalid : Don't you dare call me an arab jew! It is an insult to this morocco born jew, you moron! Food does not belong to anyone, you idiots.
85. #73, "Swiss Cheese" doesn't exist in Switzerland
nb ,   Canada   (07.10.08)
The Swiss make an incredibly number of cheeses: gruyere, emmenthal, tete de moine, marechal, tilsiter, appenzeller, raclette, vacherin, tomme vaudoise...the list goes on, but "swiss cheese" is made up north american crap.
86. #63 matzo will remain Jewish
(07.10.08)
blood is costly and more; they don't have goyim
87. Spaghetti, pizza, french fries, soy sauce
Joel D ,   Philadelphia, PA   (07.10.08)
What is the logical extension of this concept? Spaghetti noodles only made in Italy? Of course, the Chinese say Marco Polo stole the noodle idea from them? Sounds like a windfall for lawyers and a loss for consumers. Let the packaging clearly state the country of origin, and let the consumer decide on quality and price.
88. you got to be kidding ? let us know if Israel breathes!!!!!
rachel ,   usa   (07.10.08)
89. I think I will put a patent on Air we breathe
rachel ,   usa   (07.10.08)
90. #36. You are a liar of the first order
Jake   (07.10.08)
Herod was a self-identifying Jew, of Edomite extraction (Edomites were Hebrews descended from Jacob's brother Esau, but converted to Judaism generations before Herod's time). He was no Arab. In fact, he fortified Judaea and defended it against attacks from NOMADIC Arab marauding tribes from the desert. Go back to your desert, and stop poaching the history and civilization of others, you barbarous ignorant fool.
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